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Изходен канал @clockstackwheels · Post #948 · 19.01

Вдогонку к Миру Полудня послушал "Попытку к бегству". Спойлерить не буду, но Стругацкие здесь поднимают идею, которую позже развивают в "Трудно быть богом", и которая несколько в другом виде встречается, например, в "Этическом инженере" Гарри Гаррисона. И вот на этой теме, как мне кажется, жёстко ломается гуманизм и вообще современная классическая гуманистическая идеология, сейчас поясню. В теории радикальный гуманизм очень устойчив к контраргументам, потому что все вменяемые люди хотят жить и хотят, чтобы были живы их близкие. Идея, которая ставит во главу угла ценность человеческой жизни, проста, понятна и выглядит той самой максимой, к которой должно стремиться любое общество. Из-за этого другие идеи, являющиеся производными от неё, сложно отбивать какой-либо риторикой. Например, представление о полной недопустимости физического насилия, кроме как в ответ на другое физическое насилие — на уровне практического понимания работы общества мы знаем, что эта идея нежизнеспособна, но формально спорить с ней означает атаковать частичку гуманизма, который в некотором смысле непоколебим. Вот и герои "Попытки к бегству" добрую половину произведения мучаются, тупят и совершают ошибки из-за своего гуманизма, а в какой-то момент даже начинают сильно раздражать этим (уверен, именно такова была задумка авторов). Однако, гуманизм не может предложить вообще никакое нормальное решение в следующей ситуации (и об этом вообще всё произведение): вы развитая гуманистическая цивилизация натыкаетесь на неразвитую варварскую, в которой часть людей (условно, рабы) жесточайше страдает и умирает из-за другой части людей (условно, господ). Что делать? Оставить всё как есть нельзя — рабы же страдают и умирают. Убить всех господ тоже нельзя — негуманно. Забрать рабов с планеты бессмысленно — господа поделятся на новых господ и новых рабов. Аналогично если забрать господ. Каким-то образом изменить сознание господ, чтобы они отказались от рабов — это нарушение свободы воли, эквивалентно, как было в "Трудно быть богом", убийству одного человечества и созданию на его месте другого. В общем, что бы мы ни придумали, нам неизбежно придётся отойти от понятия ценности индивидуальной человеческой жизни и начать мыслить такими категориями, как стадии развития общества в целом, которые оно должно сначала пройти, чтобы достичь какого-то уровня. И выходит своего рода парадокс: мы не можем применять гуманизм целиком до тех пор, пока наше общество не стало целиком гуманистическим. А оно не стало, пока мы не применяем гуманизм целиком. Вот вам и поломка модели. #fiction#life

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@aseanrussia · Post #1653 · 30.05.2025 г., 06:47

🎙 Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks at the meeting with delegation of the Permanent Committee of the International Conference of Asian Political Parties (Perm, May 29, 2025) 💬 Sergey Lavrov: Dear colleagues, dear friends, This is the year when the International Conference of Asian Political Parties commemorates its 25th anniversary. And because of their reputation and their authority, they are a platform for exchanging views and experience in the context of party-to-party cooperation. Cooperation at this level is one of our priorities. It's a very useful addition to the so-called classical diplomacy and that contributes a lot to promoting mutual trust, mutual understanding between peoples. The creation of the conference is a signal, a very clear signal to the entire world. And very timely response to reconsider the place of the Asian countries in international and global developments. We assess very positively the increase of the political work of your conference. And we see with pleasure the sustainable process of expanding your influence in the continental architecture, in the architecture of regional organizations, some of which are experiencing erosion of their influence, if not degradation, since they abandoned practically all of the key principles of the UN Charter. I have in mind such organizations on our Eurasian continent as the European Union, which became more Euro-Atlantic than Eurasian following NATO. <...> In the last 10-15 years, all these principles including equal and indivisible security, including the statement that no one, be it the country or organization, should prepare to dominate in Europe, all this was abandoned, violated. 🌐 We need Eurasia of course. And by the way, Eurasia is the biggest, the richest continent. The continent which, unlike Africa and Latin America, is home of several world civilizations with thousands and thousands of years of history. <...> #Eurasia is the only continent which doesn't have any universal continental structure, like African Union in Africa, like CELAC in Latin America. We have quite a lot, many integrational movements, organizations which address security issues, like Shanghai Cooperation Organization, #ASEAN, Collective Security Treaty Organization (#CSTO), Commonwealth of Independent States (#CIS) and the Gulf Cooperation Council (#GCC), the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (#SAARC) and there is no umbrella. We are very much in favor of promoting party-to-party dialogue. Our ruling party, United Russia, in cooperation with other parliamentary parties and their fractions is promoting very actively this kind of cooperation. And I will highlight the initiative of United Russia of last year, when they convened a meeting of various parties to consider methods of fighting the new forms of colonialism and neo-colonialism. <...> A movement created on the basis of the conference, which is called "Freedom of Nations". ☝️ The inadmissibility of neo-colonial forms of exploitation is one of the agenda items of the Group of Friends of the UN Charter. Last year, we initiated, through this group, the resolution of the UN Committee on Decolonization. The draft resolution supported by this committee was accepted by the UN General Assembly. <..> A clear majority supported it. The idea is to announce the 14th of December, the day of the adoption of The Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples of 1960, as a date of fighting the new forms of neo-colonialism. Сolonial exploitation was very blunt. Slaves, you know, digging the resources and leaving the countries in very poor condition. If you take the economic system in the world, countries, especially in Africa, mostly produce, they provide natural resources to the western countries We would like to promote the movement to resolve this injustice. Without fighting any country, we never want to isolate any country from cooperation, but cooperation must be based on equal footing, just principles. 🤝 We express our readiness to cooperate with your conference.

🎙 Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks at the meeting with delegation of the Permanent Committee of the International Conference of Asian Political Parties (Perm, May 29, 2025) 💬 Sergey Lavrov: Dear colleagues, dear friends, This is the year when the International Conference of Asian Political Parties commemorates its 25th anniversary. And because of their reputation and their authority, they are a platform for exchanging views and experience in the context of party-to-party cooperation. Cooperation at this level is one of our priorities. It's a very useful addition to the so-called classical diplomacy and that contributes a lot to promoting mutual trust, mutual understanding between peoples. The creation of the conference is a signal, a very clear signal to the entire world. And very timely response to reconsider the place of the Asian countries in international and global developments. We assess very positively the increase of the political work of your conference. And we see with pleasure the sustainable process of expanding your influence in the continental architecture, in the architecture of regional organizations, some of which are experiencing erosion of their influence, if not degradation, since they abandoned practically all of the key principles of the UN Charter. I have in mind such organizations on our Eurasian continent as the European Union, which became more Euro-Atlantic than Eurasian following NATO. <...> In the last 10-15 years, all these principles including equal and indivisible security, including the statement that no one, be it the country or organization, should prepare to dominate in Europe, all this was abandoned, violated. 🌐 We need Eurasia of course. And by the way, Eurasia is the biggest, the richest continent. The continent which, unlike Africa and Latin America, is home of several world civilizations with thousands and thousands of years of history. <...> #Eurasia is the only continent which doesn't have any universal continental structure, like African Union in Africa, like CELAC in Latin America. We have quite a lot, many integrational movements, organizations which address security issues, like Shanghai Cooperation Organization, #ASEAN, Collective Security Treaty Organization (#CSTO), Commonwealth of Independent States (#CIS) and the Gulf Cooperation Council (#GCC), the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (#SAARC) and there is no umbrella. We are very much in favor of promoting party-to-party dialogue. Our ruling party, United Russia, in cooperation with other parliamentary parties and their fractions is promoting very actively this kind of cooperation. And I will highlight the initiative of United Russia of last year, when they convened a meeting of various parties to consider methods of fighting the new forms of colonialism and neo-colonialism. <...> A movement created on the basis of the conference, which is called "Freedom of Nations". ☝️ The inadmissibility of neo-colonial forms of exploitation is one of the agenda items of the Group of Friends of the UN Charter. Last year, we initiated, through this group, the resolution of the UN Committee on Decolonization. The draft resolution supported by this committee was accepted by the UN General Assembly. <..> A clear majority supported it. The idea is to announce the 14th of December, the day of the adoption of The Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples of 1960, as a date of fighting the new forms of neo-colonialism. Сolonial exploitation was very blunt. Slaves, you know, digging the resources and leaving the countries in very poor condition. If you take the economic system in the world, countries, especially in Africa, mostly produce, they provide natural resources to the western countries We would like to promote the movement to resolve this injustice. Without fighting any country, we never want to isolate any country from cooperation, but cooperation must be based on equal footing, just principles. 🤝 We express our readiness to cooperate with your conference.